The Fear in Mighty Righty Americans is soiling Foreign Relationships.
There is a Blog that you moderate Americans need to rally to. You need to mend fences with the British public. Most Brits will tease but have infinity with Americans. That is likely to be damaged by the fact that you moderates and you Democrats are NOT represented on Sun Online. Sun Online is a British Tabloid and a gutsy one with many topics. Camped on that site are about six or eight right wing radicals claiming to be a cross section of American views. You dare not post any view that questions any Bush issue or Republican issue. What happens is that the ´James Gang´ as I call them circles the wagons and batter and abuse anyone with a different point of view? I have actually had US posters threaten to come to Jacksonville and use me as target practice. "Like me and my pals do with the Mexicans" he goes on to say. He actually traveled up past Jax on his way to Canada supposedly. There is also a Texan who has threatened that Florida ´is not that far away´. He goes by Maddog63 on Sun Online. He brags about ´guns´.
The trouble with the ones supposedly representing your great nation is that the Brits tend to tar with the same brush. The start of the issues was when a cop went on line and stated a thread. "Europe America´s next enemy". You can imagine how well that went down on a Brit forum? Then other Americans or ´wannabee´ Americans as a half French Canadian in Florida comes on and denigrates all Europeans for a great number of reasons. Her ID is ´globalgypsy1´ or ´auntieburka´ to confuse people. One of the weird things there is that many American posters talk as though it is all-real. They talk of ´doing the rounds´ as if on point. They talk of ´having your back´ to other Americans. There is a feature where you can see who has looked at your ´profile´ recently and ´AustinBB´ will announce that I have been looking on her profile and all must alight to push me off. Others from the USA will suggest a conspiracy to invade her email. They get very violent and abusive and get banned frequently and have multi ID´s so that they can continue to harass and harangue to their hearts content.
One of the frequent bones of contention is the racial abuse of Muslims or those suspected of being Muslims by the Americans. Anyone rejecting the hateful doctrine aimed at British or other Muslims is automatically put into a category. Americans on the forum seem not to understand that we Brits are not scared of our Muslim population. They also detest the amount of freedom to protest we give them. Just because they sometimes write hateful things on pieces of cardboard in reaction to stuff like Haditha and Danish Cartoons and Abu Ghraib does not make us think they should all be rounded up. Stick and stones and all that and in point of fact we have done far worse in ´actual fact´ than just chant and threaten. We have allowed the bias to Israel to lead to a despicable life in Palestine. We strive to control oil for greed and opulence. We occupy two Arab nations and have bases in several more. We ´by association´ have worried the world with dropped standards and we think less like Americans than ever before. If anyone on the Sun threads should be opposed to right wing views and give vent to them the word goes out as several of the ´James Gang´ are even email ´buddies´. They get told the links to the threads and they gang up on anyone who disagrees with ´occupation´ ´Bush´ ´rendition´ ´Guantanamo´ ´torture´ ´Haditha´ ´the surge´ ´Obama´ or any of the cloned fifty reasons for being a right wing republican. They have openly conspired and threatened to have me deported for my opposing views. They collude and exchange info in their efforts.
Sheraz, the ID of a Scottish born Muslim has had horrendous abuse from the US posters. He was asked if his young son was getting suicide bomb training. Anyone coming to the aid of this man is frequently labeled Muslim also and is open to a tirade of abuse. He has retaliated and he might have been banned. Many of the Americans constantly are banned and have other multi ID´s in order to keep a contribution going. They will even back up their other ID on threads just to strengthen their cause. It is one big conspiracy.
In Britain the Muslim community do NOT have a history of violence and most would see it that the July London bombings were a ´one off´ brought about by misdeeds of the allies as well. The American contingent has a problem with that. They don´t see enough hatred for their liking and seem to try and stir up that Muslims are ´all alike´. They constantly try to undermine the goodwill between British and Muslim peoples. Some Brits think that they are a paid conspiracy to control and divide and that may well be.
Americans seem to have the mantra that to confess or to criticize ones own is tantamount to treason. Brits were very open about not agreeing with Blair and were able to have some control over his demise. Brits are not much in favor with American policy any more than the rest of the world is right now. I am sure that most of the world waits for November more than any event has been a world issue ever before. I wonder why it is that the American crowd wishes to congregate on a British Tabloid forum and why you never hear from any of the democratic side or from black America. I wish that more of you moderate Americans would make it a point to out vote the ones that do so much damage to the cross section of views that exist and would be so welcomed by the British public. I am the lone cause to alert the Brits not to get their interpretation of Americans from the vile and abusive nature of the ´James Gang´ group of right wing radical who have gripped the Sun threads and despoiled the good name of America.
To say your piece:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/discussions/forums/show/News-2.page
When you get an ID on Sun Online look for these threads:
"Should all Brits in America have to publicly denounce their Homeland or be told to leave America?"
I was told by ´maddog63´ that if I did not denounce Britain I should have to leave America?
Here are his words:
Maddog63 states to me on the eve of our London Bombings, on another thread that all brits in America for whatever reason should have to denounce their homeland Britain or be asked to leave America? Comments please?
Maddog63
Male
44 years old
View Profile 08/07/2008 07:34:43
Re:AMERICA FOR AMERICANS AND HER FRIENDS
"Your not swearing an oath to a person, your swearing an oath to a country, regardless of who is in charge. You are also disavowing an allegiance to any other country. "
"You will never be ready. Why don't you hang it up and go home. "
MaddDog on America For Americans and her Friends tells a retired Cold War Veteran he should leave America if he is not ready to Disavow his Homeland Britain.
Maddog63:
08/07/2008 07:23:40
Re:AMERICA FOR AMERICANS AND HER FRIENDS
"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."
"When your ready to swear this oath, let me know. If your not, go home. "
TheGreatGonzo on my thread
Hello Ms. Krystal4, how are you? Today I am doing fairly well, I live near the San Fransisco Bay Area, inland beyond Oakland. We have just gotten over a pretty severe heat wave and now the weather is delightful. From you posts it looks to me you are here looking for a fight of some kind all the while claiming not to be.
I mean really, "It is because you come on here day in day out attacking being hateful spiteful, insulting other members." followed by, "You're just a bunch of evil bitter twisted neo nazi extreme right wing racist people who post rate on here 7 days a week. And you all need to be kicked off this forum because we are all thoroughly sick of you.". You decry an evil, bitter, twisted, neo nazi, right wing, racist post with your own evil, bitter, twisted, neo nazi, right wing, racist post.
Why is your reason, frankly I am not interested in knowing, but it seems such a waste of time and effort.
Now, other than evil, bitter, twisted, neo nazi, right wing, racist posts, do you have anything to say?
Being honest I can not wait to enjoy the world famous British good manners, fair play and gracefulness that enchants everyone who comes in contact with it.
Reply by Krystal4
Go away and annoy someone else. Why not join a forum which promotes hate, anger, bitterness, extreme right wing pro bush pro war pro clusterboming pro attack pro bullying, pro torture, pro Gitmo detention without trial views.
We do not on this forum. That's why you are not welcome. It;s why some of you are banned. And hopefully all of you will be banned. You do not fit in here.
Now go away and harass someone else on another site.We do not want you here. We dislike you, We do not support your hate view. Go Away!!!
TheGreatGonzo Replies:
Krsstal4, thank you for your reply. As an international representative of Queen and country you are a remarkable example of the graceful, tasteful manners the British are becoming more and more known for. Perhaps I should copy and send your posts to Balmoral or Windor to Her Royal Highness that she may share the pride in Her subjects She should.
As for:
"join a forum which promotes hate, anger, bitterness, extreme right wing pro bush pro war pro clusterboming pro attack pro bullying, pro torture, pro Gitmo detention without trial views."
I am here.
With you.
No need to go any further.
"We do not on this forum. That's why you are not welcome. It;s why some of you are banned. And hopefully all of you will be banned. You do not fit in here."
Bear in mind the entire Internet is a free gift from the U.S.A. Department of Defense to the world. If we decided you all should be removed from it, that is ALL of the world outside of the U.S.A. to include national governments, there is nothing you could do about it. You are here only because of our charity. It is not as if you could do create or support it all by your little oneizes.
katta-b:
"Silly Krystal is always looking for a fight!"
Her problem is, it takes two to make a fight and honestly she CAN'T bring anything here that will intimidate me. After having to face, more than once, groups of men armed with semi and fully automatic weapons looking to kill me one little girl stands NO chance of impressing me. When some cute baby girl tries to act the adult just be kind to her, pat her on her head, turn her around and send her off to her to play with her little dolls with a little pat on her little bottom.
The Thread called "Europe, America's new enemy too"
Globalgypsy1 in Florida:
LOL! No, I never have a bad day at work. If you would like to dismiss honest expression as "just a bad day at work?" Fine. But I tell you it goes a lot deeper than that. Research that I have done since being here on this site tells me that Europe has always had hate and contempt for the US. Generally, it was confined to the upper classes, but has changed, and it now enjoys wide acceptence among the entire popluation. Are Americans not supposed to respond? Should they allow themselves to be Europe's punching bag? For how long?
Nah, America is tired of you, they are tired of smug and useless Europeans demanding that they do "something," and when they do having Europe respond with a deluge of hate and criticizm. If your EU is such a world player than you shouldn't need America to do anything at all. It should be left for you to do. It should empty European coffers of hard earned tax Euros, and let's see perfect planning and efforts tackle the world's problems. Come on you should be demanding Europe tackle Africa. I believe it was your mess to start with. Leave the "inept and bungling" Americans out it, fix yourself.
And Canuck, I know this will be right up your alley, demand that all American bases be closed and our beloved American soldiers be sent home to defend this country, they are not appreciated anyway, so why should you have them?
"A persons political views or even national identity should never be viewed as a mirror of a persons personality, if you met a stranger in a bar or restaurant and thought of them as quite charming or funny or even a possible partner, would you turn on that person because they held differing political views?
If the answer to that question is yes then I believe this is a sad reflection of you as an individual."
Sorry, Overseas, I have to totally disagree with that, especially your last sentence. For me, political and ideological philosophies form the very basis of who we are as people. Would I pick up with a "terrorist" because he happens to be an engaging, funny guy? Why would I want someone who doesn't share my values? There are enough factors out there that can destroy a relationship, why add to that by choosing someone who is so diametrically opposed to your beliefs?
When I look for someone, I look for someone who I can share my thoughts and expectations, and not someone who would provide a constant battle. No, I would never seek to change anyone's mind, that isn't for me to do. A person has to arrive at their own path in life, so I would choose first, a person who embraces rightwing philosophies. There are enough of them out there who I already share like opinions with I don't need to look further than that.
OMGosh, I am playing nice. There is no anger here, there is only honest expression of thoughts that I have. I have tried to play peacemaker on a number of occasions between disparate groups, and try to find common ground by which we could all get along. I have tried to tease people out of their hate and anger, but it never works. So honesty is all that I have left.
I think you Europeans have always believed that no matter how much hate and insults that you level at Americans, that they will always love you. I am here to tell you that isn't so, and don't count on it.
Good for you and I hope you make those millions really quickly.
I don't know if Brit has been deported, but I do know that he hasn't been cut and pasting ridiculously long articles that no one cares about here. At least now we can get a thread with some flow without his stupid interruptions.
"LOl If that was all it meant to be right wing then we all must be right wing,"
No you all couldn't be conservatives, as you are liberals. Being a liberal in my opinion is a gutless choice. Everything goes, so you never have to make judgements based on values. You embrace everything without standing for anything. I could never do that
Fredio Black Brit:
This threads gone downhill since Brit left – I thought the yanks would have their wagons circled by know – maybe later – I´m off for a few warm pints...emmm
Hey where´s madd – waiting in the wings for his single shot? HAHA..hehe...
Cubobono01 Brit Poster:
Allo allo - wots all this then?........................
FFS - just reading the last few posts by the "American Wannabe" is enough to make anyone vomit ...................lol........what a load of boll0cks and what a suck a$$, sycophantic cretin! She clearly has no self-respect. Just look at her proudly present herself, admit to us all, that she is a right-wing religious fanatic. The irony is, she believes that non-Christian fanatics should be subject to genocide, so that her and her type are free to promote their own right-wing religious fanaticism - what a hypocrite, what an a$$!
She has summed up her views of all Europe from a few posts on a UK tabloid internet forum. Again what an a$$. What an ignorant imbecile, but very typical of an intolerant and narrow minded bigot.
To view UK as the 'spokesperson' of Europe, is not only absurd, but very dangerous - but it is an example of the typical attitude adopted by the narrow-minded bigot!
This American Wannabe then goes on to talk further cr@p by saying, "Should they (Americans) allow themselves to be Europe's punching bag? For how long?".
This little Miss American Wannabe is so far up her own ar$e and cannot see that the rest of the world is the "punching bag" for the USA foreign policies!
The world is tired of America
BritPatJax Final Comment:
Britain needs to hear now from moderate America so please go and register free and get and ID and let good Brits know that the mighty righties do NOT speak for the whole of America.

