CNO Take over of IHS, good or bad? Part 2
John Cornsilk
April 25, 2008
"CNOT is desperately looking for alternate funding for when the Congress woman's Bill cuts them off at the Knees, (SOON I HOPE)!! And what they are looking at is the take over of the Indian health service in Tahlequah, an Probably Claremore as well, as they are both in CNOT-Land! I just had another Article published, and if you go to this link you can see it,notice it starts of with an announcement of the planned take over by CNOT, and also, note if you will the monies mention that I believe is the only reason for the planed take over, Smith no more cares for The Cherokee Peoples health, than the man in the moon, demonstrated so by what he did to his wife and kids, when he did this to them"
Smith Continues the smoke screen, he has his slate of councilors act as though they may be offended for not being consulted on the matter of the IHS take over, smith desperately wants this money to fall back on when the Congress shuts of the Funds and closed the Casinos...By having the following Story published in the local paper: read the story folks and if you have been keeping up with the antics of Smith and his majority slate of Council people, you will see right through the smoke by Smith, by the rhetoric if these supposed representatives of the Cherokee people is absolutely disgusting, they are in Smiths pocket, and one of the supposed good guys is being dupe big time, Chuck Hoskins Jr. or is he, the fact he is a lawyer gives a BIG rise to my question of what he stands for! Frailey Too is a Lawyer, and another of the Supposed good guys is a Lawyer as well, Tina Glory Jordan, that served Joe Byrd as a judge, if you think she is on there for the Cherokee People I want to sell you a slightly used bridge out east of Tahlequah!
A long time California poster to my Discussion Forum John's Place, Said I am so proud to read this article and the concerns expressed! I was thinking perhaps they will realize how a member feels when they are left out of the process, can't even speak at a council meeting!
They agree that the Principal Chief has the authority to approve negotiations and that was given in resolution form under the administration of Wilma, well it was wrong then and it's wrong now to allow that much power to one person.
Instead of changing our name to Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, why not be done with it and call it Chad Nation of Oklahoma, the only tribe in existence made up of one person?
Outlander
I believe what she meant in the first part of the message was she could be proud of a REAL message like this by caring elected officials, which these are not, they are of the same caliber as Smith, and she knows that as well as I and many Cherokee, BUT the thought is good...if only the subjects were equally so!
David Cornsilk sums it all up quite well, in a nutshell so to speak:
Before hastily praising Cobb and Fraily for their position, or young Mr. Hoskins for praising Cobb, which if we did not know them so well, would be admirable, I think it wise to take a wait and see attitude. Smith's minion do nothing on their own. There is something suspicious about this seeming "bowing up" of the Council. I shall not rush to judgment one way or another, as we have seen this sort of behavior before. The Council gets to look like they are protecting the rights of their constituency by challenging Smith. Smith then gets to show that he's a real leader (something totally lacking in his administration) by giving the Council their due. In the end, the Smith-lead Council gives him what he wants anyway. Its all just a dog-and-pony show mastered by Wilma Mankiller in her ten years as PC and now being practiced by Smith. When the Council had the appearance of checks and balances, there was no need for such a ruse. But now that Smith totally controls the majority of the Council he must, from time to time make it appear otherwise.
David Cornsilk
And so that this article does not appear completely one sided, a poster on my forum suggested some rules may hender the Smith scam the poster known a hoocheemamma said:
"The other Oklahoma tribes running hospitals in their jurisdictions have no such boards. Chickasaws, Choctaws and Creeks all run hospitals in their jurisdiction and they fall in their organizational structure like any other program.
With all due respect, you really have little to no clue on this issue.
A dear, dear friend of mine knows a little about this issue and she said that IHS has been expecting this for some time now. The gal didn't know why it has taken so long. She said it was a logical move by the Cherokee Nation as the biggest tribe in Oklahoma with the most administrative money going to headquarters overhead that does the Cherokees little good. This way that money could go to expand the services taking place within the hospital and coordinate them better with the clinics."
Folks, leading up to the possibility of Cherokee Being denied Services at IHS should Chad Smith succeed in the take over!He hates the UKB Cherokee because they had banished him from their ranks as a traitor.
Right now the Cherokee Nation receive about 450 million in federal aid from the Govt for 2008. This is why Chad is fighting so hard in DC, so he does not lose control of this cash, plus look like the complete idiot he is for kicking out the Freedmen. Many of the programs are based on the headcount in the 'service area' but this also includes all the indians that reside there, not just Cherokee. this is why it is illegal for the tribe to deny anyone, let alone the UKB, whose headcount is included fo the grant funding for services.
Another obvious idea in the concept that Chad tows with the Conservative line of no entitlement, dont ask for hand-outs; pull yourself up by the bootstrap B.S. Yet the CNO has a very large hand out in D.C. and is raking in all the cash. CNOT takes an 'administration' fee of up to 40% off the top of each award. this is how he pays extravagant salaries and bonusses to his top cronies.
Following is what the Keetoowah may expect should Smith make the takeover!
Words by a Keetoowah Cherokee:
"A friend of mine and cousin to my wife, a full blood Choctaw contacted me about some assistance that he had received from the Cherokee Nation and told me who to speak to. I was in school, my wife was expecting, and times were hard. I went and spoke to the same woman that assisted the full blood choctaw. She stated that she could not help me because I was a UKB member. I then asked her why she could help a Full Blood Choctaw but not a Keetoowah. She stated that she had been instructed to deny Keetoowah Band Members. The program was a federal program.
Another situation involves an elderly full blood UKB member who is in need of housing repairs. The CNO receives NAHASDA for all Cherokees. A CNO worker contacted the elder and told her that she could not be helped with NAHASDA unless she relinquished from the UKB and joined the CNO. I heard about this and contacted the person at CNO that had spoken with this elder. She stated that she had been instructed not to assist Keetoowah Members with NAHASDA.
Why would "they" love you to believe this? I am one of the UKB members who has been denied services from CNO and have refused to leave their facilities until I had a letter stating why I was being denied. I have letters that show that I am denied due to being a member of the United Keetoowah Band of Cherokees."
So will the Smith administration be any different with the UKB that he hates an refuses to accept as Cherokee! And with the situation Today with the Cherokee Freedmen you know what his stance will/would be for them were he in charge today, and/or he makes the take over anytime soon!!
And to explain the law in regards to the Constitution of the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma (Traitors) CNOT, by David Cornsilk, as it relates to why their should NOT be the descrimination by Smith against the UKB Cherokee for any federal services as a Cherokee in the service are of the Cherokee Nation that CNOT claim the rule of.
"The 1976 Constitution of the CNO, which, btw, is the ONLY valid CNO constitution, at Article 14, states that the Cherokee government cannot pass any laws which would interfere with the right of Cherokees to belong to any organization, group or clan within the Cherokee Nation. The UKB is a "group" or "organization" situated within the historic boundaries of the Cherokee Nation. It would be unconstitutional for the council to pass an act prohibiting or impeding in any way a Cherokees right to belong to the UKB. In other words, CNO cannot prohibit dual enrollment. The reason for that clause is simple. The CNO was created as a vehicle by which to carry out the "popular selection" of the Principal Chief in accordance with the 1970 Principal Chiefs Act which delegated the authority to "promulgate rules" to the then appointed Principal Chief (W.W. Keeler).
The CNO constitution is nothing more than the manifestation of those rules. Registration to vote in CNO elections is NOT the same as being a member/citizen of a federally recognized tribe. We, as descendants of the citizens of the Cherokee Nation listed on the Dawes Rolls are designated by Congress as the parties responsible for popularly selecting the principal chief. Previous to the passage of the 1970 PCA, Congress had designated the U.S. President or his designee (Sec. of Interior) as the party responsible for appointing the Principal Chief. While the UKB does prohibit dual enrollment in any other "federally recognized tribe" the CNO is not the federally recognized entity.
The United States has a government to government relationship with the Cherokee Nation created by the 1839 Constitution. That constitution remains the only valid governing document of the Cherokee Nation. The Cherokee Nation and the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma are not one and the same thing. The only remaining citizens of the Cherokee Nation are those Dawes enrollees yet alive, all of them being at least 102 years old now. They alone are prohibited by UKB law from dual enrollment because they alone are the only citizens of the Cherokee Nation remaining. The rest of us are merely congressionally delegated selectors whose only duty is to fill the office of the Principal Chief by our vote. That is also why the Freedmen cannot be excluded. The intent of Congress was that all of the citizens of the Cherokee Nation (Dawes enrollees) and their descendants (that's all Cherokees including freedmen) cast a ballot to popularly select the principal chief.
Congress could have designated anyone or any group to select our Principal Chief. Because of Congress' plenary power, it could have designated that authority to the Mexican immigrants if it chose to. The fact that Congress delegated that power to the U.S. President, who was not and has never been a Cherokee Indian or citizen of the Nation, clearly shows that the popular selection could have been by any party and the 1970 PCA did not change, nor impact the status of the descendants of the Dawes enrollees. We were then and we remain nothing more than descendants and the CNO is nothing more than a descendancy organization. The fact that the BIA, state of Oklahoma and even the Cherokee people, have permitted the CNO to act in the place of the Cherokee Nation does not change its identity."
David Cornsilk
If you will, look up the word "election" please note that in the webster description it denotes an inherent right, of power or priviledge, while the word "selection" is totally lacking in that regard. Clearly it was not the intent of Congress to recognize any particular right, power or priviledge vested in the Cherokee people by granting them the right to select the Principal Chief.
Taking that process away from the President and giving it to the Dawes enrollees and their descendants was in no way a recognition of sovereignty of the descendants of the Cherokee Nation. The right to elect one's leadership is a recognition of the soveregnty of the people.
The ability to make a selection of a person whose only duty is to cowtow to the federal government, Oklahoma, sign documents and dispose of assets as Chad Smith DOES, does not require rights, power or priviledge. The power to "select" the principal chief could have been granted to anyone without impacting the status of the Cherokee Nation according to law (1906 Act).
So Once again Folks if it's not to late, and I don't believe it is yet, contact Friends, family and and your tribal Government, you if you ar a non Cherokee Indian, or/and your federal elected officals and object to this dictator take over of a Service to the Indian People. Smith is ONLY after Money!
John Cornsilk
Cherokee, CNOT member!
Purveyor of Simple Truth
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