Push poll failure to identify huge voter support for illegals’ deportation, risks U.S. civil war.
Mark Lowry
May 28, 2007
Please don't misunderstand the will of the American people or its intensity in the illegal alien invasion debate. We demand; not ask, our elected representatives to comply with our wishes; and prosecute and deport illegal aliens. You must enforce existing laws and not pass more amnesty legislation.
The NewYorkTimes/CBS phone poll says 69% of Americans want illegal aliens prosecuted and deported; the one accurately reported illegal alien invasion response. Most of the rest are questionable for a number of reasons.
The NewYorkTimes/CBS political "immigration poll" taken May 18-23 2007 and published 5-25-07 is a the worst of push polls and has been since its inception. It not only has internal conflicts, but conflicts with all other non biased polls. Flawed poll methodology is defined at: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/25/us/25mbox.html and raises more questions regarding validity of procedures used. This poll refers to "illegal aliens", the legal term used in United States legislation as either “immigrants” or “illegal immigrants.”
The poll reports a survey over 1200 adults without establishing how they determined respondents were adults or how they confirmed other classifications defined in the poll. They report: “The nationwide telephone poll did not ask respondents about the immigration bill itself, but there were questions about its most significant provisions." They didn’t report how they determined the most significant provisions were or who decided. There was no indication enforcement of existing laws was a consideration. There was no indication of the level of bias from including those ineligible to vote in the poll.
Given all of the polls flaws it still accurately reports a remarkable 10 day increase of 6.25% in American voters wanting illegal aliens deported. Americans are fed up and the biased NewYorkTimes/CBS globalist open borders cabal can not refute that.
This corrupted biased poll has no relevancy in the amnesty debate currently before the Senate. If it is used in any way to sway voters or elected official opinions it is criminal.
Go to the following site and look at the way immigration questions on immigration are written, the order in which choices are offered, and adjectives preceding choices offered. The poll is at: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/20070525poll.pdf
Michael R. Kagay of Princeton, N.J., assisted Times in its polling analysis.
Anyone with common sense can read poll questions and clearly define this poll lacks credibility. It has no relevance to issues raised in the poll and reported by mainstream media as being representative of American voters' positions related to illegal alien invasion. If this flawed methodology and these types of biased questions were used for marketing polls to determine how many adult American citizen voters want to hang themselves with a rope or be electrocuted, or not killed at all, it would show most Americans want to be hanged by a rope.
If the marketing firm was trying to determine if adult American citizen voters like road kill or a good old steak and potato, the majority would choose road kill over the steak as the food of the day.
Most NYT/CBS poll questions are confusing, unclear, contain leading adjectives and terms, lack clear choices for responses, offer choices in an unfair format and violate most valid polling principles. Some convoluted questions provide as many as 12 possible responses, with response options in orders that favor results desired by pro amnesty corrupt pollsters. Poll prejudiced questions are so long and confusing that the respondents forget the question before response choices are offered.
An old example of psychological influence in questioning respondents is the following question used to solicit a desired behavioral response: "I wonder whether you would want to: (fill in the command or desired outcome)" Try this format on your friends and see the affect of confusing questions with hidden commands.
The words: "wonder", "whether", "would want", “think,” should, believe, illegal, legal, etc. are used to confuse and create a mental lapse that promotes compliance with the command at the end of the question. Subjects will, without thinking, respond to complex questions by complying with the command to: follow, sit, speak, or do most any thing else they are directed to do, within reason with this type of question. They may even say "they don't take American jobs" when they know illegal aliens do take American jobs.
In the following example of the unseemly practice used by the NYT/CBS pollsters, the questioner wants the respondent to: “have a seat”: "I wonder whether you would want to: have a seat?" (Stated while pointing at a chair.) In many studies most all subjects automatically sit without question.
The next similar example hides the command "follow me" behind the confusing question that precedes the command. “I wonder whether you would want to: follow me?” stated while walking away from the subject. Again most all follow the hidden command confused by words preceding the command.
This nefarious technique used by dishonest pollsters is the same as used by deceitful interrogators to get false confessions. It is used throughout the NewYorkTimes/CBS poll. The poll is so contaminated; results are totally irrelevant and not credible on most if not all illegal alien amnesty questions currently before the senate.
Another major problem with this particular phone poll is length of time it takes to respond and time of day it was taken. Many poll questions provide up to 12 different optional choices of which the respondent is to pick one. Most respondents to phone polls do not want to be on the phone for 120 questions which could require an hour or more of a person’s time especially at the end of a long work day and during their main meal. Respondents will pick the first answer to end the misery. Questions at the end of long polls are more easily distorted with unfortunate push poll techniques used by the NewYorkTimes/CBS poll.
A few examples of illegal alien questions interchangeably mislabeled as “immigrant” and “illegal immigrant” questions in the NewYorkTimes/CBS polls follow:
Question 55 “Do you think ILLEGAL immigrants take jobs from Americans or mostly take jobs Americans don't want.”
RESPONSE:
Take jobs from American Citizens-30%; take jobs Americans don’t want- 53%.
This question is placed in the middle of a list of boring questions and emphasizes the word "mostly" to indicate “illegal immigrants” "mostly" take jobs Americans don't want.
A less biased approach would have excluded the word mostly or would have applied it to both choices. Data is further contaminated by interchanging terms "immigrant" and "illegal immigrant" throughout the poll. They never use the correct legal term “illegal alien” and by so doing, establish their bias.
A simple unbiased question would be: Do illegal aliens: A. Take American citizens’ jobs or B. Take jobs no American citizens will do.
Question 56 “Do you think illegal immigrants do more to strengthen the U.S. economy because they provide low-cost labor and they spend money or do illegal immigrants do more to weaken the U.S. economy because they don't all pay taxes but can use public services?”
Responses:
Strengthen 23% Weaken 70%
This is another confusing long question that doesn't permit respondents a clear understanding of the question and provides responses that conflict with responses reported to question 55.
It appears respondents have figured out they are dealing with "illegal immigrants" and responded with an overwhelming statement: “illegals are damaging the economy.”
A simple unbiased question would be: Do illegal aliens: A. Help the economy or B. hurt the economy.
Common sense indicates if 70% of respondents think illegal immigrants are detrimental to the economy, that same 70% might think they take jobs from Americans.
Questions 61 and 74, although similar in subject matter, clearly demonstrate nature of the poll bias and difference in responses when the question is less biased.
Question 61. “If you had to choose, what do you think should happen to illegal immigrants who have lived and worked in the United States for at least two years: they should be given a chance to keep their jobs and eventually apply for legal status, Or they should be deported back to their native country?”
Response: Deported-33%; given legal status-62%
In this question the “United States” is spelled out instead of using the initials U.S. "IF you had to choose" adds bias to the question. “Given a chance” confuses the answer and leaves it open-ended. “Deported” is confused with “their native country” and should have been deleted entirely. The question is long and again confusing, designed to influence the response.
A simple unbiased question would be: Should illegal aliens who have worked illegally in America for 2 years be: A. Provided legal status, or B. Deported.
Question 74 provides an exception to the rule in this flaw poll taken by the corrupt pollsters. The question is: “Should illegal immigrants be prosecuted and deported for being in the U.S. illegally or shouldn’t they?
Responses: Should be prosecuted- 69%; should not-24%
This question still contains bias but it is short and clear enough for respondents to give an honest response. The response is in obvious conflict with the much more biased and confusing similar number 61 question. The simpler question in number 74 is relative short, and not too cluttered with biased qualifying phrases and terms except for the word prosecuted being used in conjunction with deportation and the duplicate use of illegal and illegally.
It is notable the word “deport” is excluded from published responses. The phrase “should be prosecuted” is used and gives the false impression American voters don't want illegal aliens deported. There is no comparison to a Pathway to citizenship or a multitude of confusing terms most people may be unfamiliar with. Only 24% of respondents indicated they were very familiar with the subject matter in the Senate.
This is the answer the American public has for Illegal alien invasion: Prosecute and deport. We, the American voting public, are not deceived by propaganda push polls created by corporate elite lobbyists that control our elected officials. “We the people” assure corrupt politicians who may vote for amnesty “we the people” are coming and hell is coming with us.
Criminal politicians: be fully aware of American voter intelligence. It ain't nice to fool Mother Nature, and it is beyond foolish to lie to American Patriots. You are making a big mistake if you fail to deport illegals from our country. Amnesty will not be accepted.
Even with all the bias of the NewYorkTimes/CBS poll, they confirm the fact: about 70% of Americans want illegals deported. That is consistent with polls taken over the past two years and is showing an increase in all categories of voters who support deportation as the answer to our failure to enforce existing immigration laws.
Elected officials, beware if you betray American and its citizens by failing to comply with their orders. If the people report, you gotta deport.
The following site provides a non biased poll that uses the legal term “Illegal Alien” in referring to people in America illegally. This poll was taken ten days before the biased NYT/CBS poll.
Pulse Opinion Research* Survey of 1,000 Likely Voters
http://www.numbersusa.com/hottopic/pulsepoll0507.html
8. With regard to the 12 million illegal immigrants in the country, ideally would you prefer they go home or be allow to stay legally?
58% - Go home
30% - Be allowed to stay legally
13% - Not sure
9. A proposal has been made for a large-scale effort to round up and deport the 12 million illegal immigrants in this country. Do you strongly support, somewhat support, somewhat oppose, or strongly oppose this proposal?
40% - Strongly support
24% - Somewhat support
17% - Somewhat oppose
14% - Strongly oppose
5% - Not sure
This unbiased poll taken on 5-15-07 showed 64% of Americans want “illegal aliens” deported. The NewYorkTimes/CBS poll taken on 5-25-07 reports 69% of Americans want “illegal immigrants” “prosecuted and deported.” Americans favoring prosecution and deportation has increased a remarkable 6.25% in only 10 days.
The NewYorkTimes/CBS phone poll says 69% of Americans want illegal aliens prosecuted and deported; the one accurately reported illegal alien invasion response. Most of the rest are questionable for a number of reasons.
The NewYorkTimes/CBS political "immigration poll" taken May 18-23 2007 and published 5-25-07 is a the worst of push polls and has been since its inception. It not only has internal conflicts, but conflicts with all other non biased polls. Flawed poll methodology is defined at: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/25/us/25mbox.html and raises more questions regarding validity of procedures used. This poll refers to "illegal aliens", the legal term used in United States legislation as either “immigrants” or “illegal immigrants.”
The poll reports a survey over 1200 adults without establishing how they determined respondents were adults or how they confirmed other classifications defined in the poll. They report: “The nationwide telephone poll did not ask respondents about the immigration bill itself, but there were questions about its most significant provisions." They didn’t report how they determined the most significant provisions were or who decided. There was no indication enforcement of existing laws was a consideration. There was no indication of the level of bias from including those ineligible to vote in the poll.
Given all of the polls flaws it still accurately reports a remarkable 10 day increase of 6.25% in American voters wanting illegal aliens deported. Americans are fed up and the biased NewYorkTimes/CBS globalist open borders cabal can not refute that.
This corrupted biased poll has no relevancy in the amnesty debate currently before the Senate. If it is used in any way to sway voters or elected official opinions it is criminal.
Go to the following site and look at the way immigration questions on immigration are written, the order in which choices are offered, and adjectives preceding choices offered. The poll is at: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/20070525poll.pdf
Michael R. Kagay of Princeton, N.J., assisted Times in its polling analysis.
Anyone with common sense can read poll questions and clearly define this poll lacks credibility. It has no relevance to issues raised in the poll and reported by mainstream media as being representative of American voters' positions related to illegal alien invasion. If this flawed methodology and these types of biased questions were used for marketing polls to determine how many adult American citizen voters want to hang themselves with a rope or be electrocuted, or not killed at all, it would show most Americans want to be hanged by a rope.
If the marketing firm was trying to determine if adult American citizen voters like road kill or a good old steak and potato, the majority would choose road kill over the steak as the food of the day.
Most NYT/CBS poll questions are confusing, unclear, contain leading adjectives and terms, lack clear choices for responses, offer choices in an unfair format and violate most valid polling principles. Some convoluted questions provide as many as 12 possible responses, with response options in orders that favor results desired by pro amnesty corrupt pollsters. Poll prejudiced questions are so long and confusing that the respondents forget the question before response choices are offered.
An old example of psychological influence in questioning respondents is the following question used to solicit a desired behavioral response: "I wonder whether you would want to: (fill in the command or desired outcome)" Try this format on your friends and see the affect of confusing questions with hidden commands.
The words: "wonder", "whether", "would want", “think,” should, believe, illegal, legal, etc. are used to confuse and create a mental lapse that promotes compliance with the command at the end of the question. Subjects will, without thinking, respond to complex questions by complying with the command to: follow, sit, speak, or do most any thing else they are directed to do, within reason with this type of question. They may even say "they don't take American jobs" when they know illegal aliens do take American jobs.
In the following example of the unseemly practice used by the NYT/CBS pollsters, the questioner wants the respondent to: “have a seat”: "I wonder whether you would want to: have a seat?" (Stated while pointing at a chair.) In many studies most all subjects automatically sit without question.
The next similar example hides the command "follow me" behind the confusing question that precedes the command. “I wonder whether you would want to: follow me?” stated while walking away from the subject. Again most all follow the hidden command confused by words preceding the command.
This nefarious technique used by dishonest pollsters is the same as used by deceitful interrogators to get false confessions. It is used throughout the NewYorkTimes/CBS poll. The poll is so contaminated; results are totally irrelevant and not credible on most if not all illegal alien amnesty questions currently before the senate.
Another major problem with this particular phone poll is length of time it takes to respond and time of day it was taken. Many poll questions provide up to 12 different optional choices of which the respondent is to pick one. Most respondents to phone polls do not want to be on the phone for 120 questions which could require an hour or more of a person’s time especially at the end of a long work day and during their main meal. Respondents will pick the first answer to end the misery. Questions at the end of long polls are more easily distorted with unfortunate push poll techniques used by the NewYorkTimes/CBS poll.
A few examples of illegal alien questions interchangeably mislabeled as “immigrant” and “illegal immigrant” questions in the NewYorkTimes/CBS polls follow:
Question 55 “Do you think ILLEGAL immigrants take jobs from Americans or mostly take jobs Americans don't want.”
RESPONSE:
Take jobs from American Citizens-30%; take jobs Americans don’t want- 53%.
This question is placed in the middle of a list of boring questions and emphasizes the word "mostly" to indicate “illegal immigrants” "mostly" take jobs Americans don't want.
A less biased approach would have excluded the word mostly or would have applied it to both choices. Data is further contaminated by interchanging terms "immigrant" and "illegal immigrant" throughout the poll. They never use the correct legal term “illegal alien” and by so doing, establish their bias.
A simple unbiased question would be: Do illegal aliens: A. Take American citizens’ jobs or B. Take jobs no American citizens will do.
Question 56 “Do you think illegal immigrants do more to strengthen the U.S. economy because they provide low-cost labor and they spend money or do illegal immigrants do more to weaken the U.S. economy because they don't all pay taxes but can use public services?”
Responses:
Strengthen 23% Weaken 70%
This is another confusing long question that doesn't permit respondents a clear understanding of the question and provides responses that conflict with responses reported to question 55.
It appears respondents have figured out they are dealing with "illegal immigrants" and responded with an overwhelming statement: “illegals are damaging the economy.”
A simple unbiased question would be: Do illegal aliens: A. Help the economy or B. hurt the economy.
Common sense indicates if 70% of respondents think illegal immigrants are detrimental to the economy, that same 70% might think they take jobs from Americans.
Questions 61 and 74, although similar in subject matter, clearly demonstrate nature of the poll bias and difference in responses when the question is less biased.
Question 61. “If you had to choose, what do you think should happen to illegal immigrants who have lived and worked in the United States for at least two years: they should be given a chance to keep their jobs and eventually apply for legal status, Or they should be deported back to their native country?”
Response: Deported-33%; given legal status-62%
In this question the “United States” is spelled out instead of using the initials U.S. "IF you had to choose" adds bias to the question. “Given a chance” confuses the answer and leaves it open-ended. “Deported” is confused with “their native country” and should have been deleted entirely. The question is long and again confusing, designed to influence the response.
A simple unbiased question would be: Should illegal aliens who have worked illegally in America for 2 years be: A. Provided legal status, or B. Deported.
Question 74 provides an exception to the rule in this flaw poll taken by the corrupt pollsters. The question is: “Should illegal immigrants be prosecuted and deported for being in the U.S. illegally or shouldn’t they?
Responses: Should be prosecuted- 69%; should not-24%
This question still contains bias but it is short and clear enough for respondents to give an honest response. The response is in obvious conflict with the much more biased and confusing similar number 61 question. The simpler question in number 74 is relative short, and not too cluttered with biased qualifying phrases and terms except for the word prosecuted being used in conjunction with deportation and the duplicate use of illegal and illegally.
It is notable the word “deport” is excluded from published responses. The phrase “should be prosecuted” is used and gives the false impression American voters don't want illegal aliens deported. There is no comparison to a Pathway to citizenship or a multitude of confusing terms most people may be unfamiliar with. Only 24% of respondents indicated they were very familiar with the subject matter in the Senate.
This is the answer the American public has for Illegal alien invasion: Prosecute and deport. We, the American voting public, are not deceived by propaganda push polls created by corporate elite lobbyists that control our elected officials. “We the people” assure corrupt politicians who may vote for amnesty “we the people” are coming and hell is coming with us.
Criminal politicians: be fully aware of American voter intelligence. It ain't nice to fool Mother Nature, and it is beyond foolish to lie to American Patriots. You are making a big mistake if you fail to deport illegals from our country. Amnesty will not be accepted.
Even with all the bias of the NewYorkTimes/CBS poll, they confirm the fact: about 70% of Americans want illegals deported. That is consistent with polls taken over the past two years and is showing an increase in all categories of voters who support deportation as the answer to our failure to enforce existing immigration laws.
Elected officials, beware if you betray American and its citizens by failing to comply with their orders. If the people report, you gotta deport.
The following site provides a non biased poll that uses the legal term “Illegal Alien” in referring to people in America illegally. This poll was taken ten days before the biased NYT/CBS poll.
Pulse Opinion Research* Survey of 1,000 Likely Voters
http://www.numbersusa.com/hottopic/pulsepoll0507.html
8. With regard to the 12 million illegal immigrants in the country, ideally would you prefer they go home or be allow to stay legally?
58% - Go home
30% - Be allowed to stay legally
13% - Not sure
9. A proposal has been made for a large-scale effort to round up and deport the 12 million illegal immigrants in this country. Do you strongly support, somewhat support, somewhat oppose, or strongly oppose this proposal?
40% - Strongly support
24% - Somewhat support
17% - Somewhat oppose
14% - Strongly oppose
5% - Not sure
This unbiased poll taken on 5-15-07 showed 64% of Americans want “illegal aliens” deported. The NewYorkTimes/CBS poll taken on 5-25-07 reports 69% of Americans want “illegal immigrants” “prosecuted and deported.” Americans favoring prosecution and deportation has increased a remarkable 6.25% in only 10 days.
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